November 8, 2011 at 5:02 am #16540
Forgive me if there is a more appropriate place for this post. I am researching the 6 boar lines and 24 sow lines (i think =) that comprise the large black breed. Does anyone know of a good resource? thank you kindly.November 8, 2011 at 8:15 am #17620Member: MO chhogsParticipant
LOL! I wish we had all the lines here in the USA but alas we do not. Right now in the USA there are the following:
Defender – as far as I know there are only 3 Defenders in the USA. We have one & the sow he was bred too lost all the boars & only the gilts survived so we will try again! Not sure if the other two breeders have had any success yet.
Big Buck – actually called Iowa Alrose in the LBHA registry. I think only one farm managed to get successfully breed some of these this year.
Grandeur (very rare)
Longfellow & Noble Sam were created out of Attempt & sadly we have not been able to discover exactly which pigs they came out of or how Ted did the split. Ted Smith was/is one of the original breeders of Large Blacks.
Same goes with Charlotte & Prudence – they were renamed here in the USA for some reason but sadly we do not have the info needed to figure out exactly what they came out of in England. The rest of the lines I have been able to trace back to the English registry so can go WAY back which is really interesting.
MissouriNovember 9, 2011 at 3:18 am #17621
Wow. Thanks for taking the time to reply. How did you go about sourcing this knowledge? Are all of the lines very similar or do some have some characteristics that make them a bit different? If you breed between the lines how do you name the offspring? Is anyone linebreeding certain lines to maintain them?November 15, 2011 at 10:25 am #17624Member: MO chhogsParticipant
Hey there, Trust you got my reply from your email the other day. If not check your Spam folder!
We maintain our own data base of LB pedigrees on the farm so have a lot of information. Some of the lines I have been able to trace back & therefore have that all inputted into our data.
There is a similarity in the lines but there are also some differences in the lines when they have been bred to keep those characteristics. For example our Majestic boar, Hammy, looks very different from our Noble Sam boar, Stitches.
The piglets take on the line names of their parents so in fact the pedigrees are very easy to read & understand, unlike some of the others. SO if you breed a Majestic to a Prudence, the boar piglets will be Majestic & the gilts will be Prudence. VERY simple which is good 🙂
MissouriApril 26, 2012 at 8:35 am #17887
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